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thailiving -

I'm taking my children to Keats School in Kunming in April. My kids are both about Intermediate
level and have been learning Chinese for years. We plan to concentrate on speaking and listening
skills on this particular trip.

So far, in the dealings I've had with Keats, they have been efficient, organized, professional and
very helpful. I've been very impressed so far. I'm happy to post my thoughts here once we've been
to Keats.

Regarding one poster saying you would speak English for the rest of the day after lessons - that
may be true if you didn't actually leave the Keats Building! Once my kids have done their homework
for the day, we plan to be out on the streets exploring Kunming and the surroundings, as well as
meeting and talking to as many people as possible.

We've done the summer camps at BLCU for the past couple of years, and to be honest, my kids spoke
an awful lot of English there, too.

And, no, I have no affiliation with Keats.



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ZFS-China -

Just putting in my 2 cents. I was thinking of attending the school, but after an extremely bizarre
correspondence with their secretary, I chose not to. I contacted another member of this board who
previously attended and recommended the school to see if the teachers were good and it was just
the secretary who had problems. He told me he could no longer recommend the school as they had
fired all the good teachers. He also told me that the secretary is the daughter of the owner and
agreed with my unfavorable assement of her (he also didn't have many kind words for the owner).

From my correspondence with them, the priority of the school seems to be money over anything else.










studychinese -



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Just putting in my 2 cents. I was thinking of attending the school, but after an extremely bizarre
correspondence with their secretary, I chose not to. I contacted another member of this board who
previously attended and recommended the school to see if the teachers were good and it was just
the secretary who had problems. He told me he could no longer recommend the school as they had
fired all the good teachers. He also told me that the secretary is the daughter of the owner and
agreed with my unfavorable assement of her (he also didn't have many kind words for the owner).

From my correspondence with them, the priority of the school seems to be money over anything else.

Bizarre in what way?










abcdefg -

I studied at Keats School in Kunming from mid October 2007 until mid January 2008. Enjoyed it and
learned a lot. What would you like to know?










hereinchina -

To ZFC-China,

Your attitude towards Keats School is quite hostile! My experiences with Keats School are
positive, and my feelings are diametrically opposed to yours. When I first contacted the school
via e-mail to get some information, I immediately got an informative and friendly reply from "the
secretary" -- yes, she is the daughter of the owner, but that is not criminal. It's my third month
here, and I intend to stay another 3 months. About the owner and her daughter, I can only say they
have been the most helpful -- on the personal level as well, and this isn't something you can buy
for money. Concerning my teachers, there is nothing to complain about. What I don't understand is
why you have launched this campaign to ruin Keats School's reputation.

KRG Danmai










vancouver -

I am just finishing up 5 weeks at Keats School and I recommend it wholeheartedly. Most students
here leave with a plan to return as soon as possible. I can't speak for all the teachers but mine
is great! And if the teacher you get doesn't really work for you, you can switch teachers and try
a different teaching style. I have learned tons in just 5 weeks.
As for speaking English after class, that's up to you, no matter where you go to study. There sure
are a lot of Chinese people in Kunming with whom you can practice Chinese if you make the effort!
The price is a little high for Kunming, but way cheaper than anything similar you could find in
Beijing, Shanghai, etc. The accommodation is nice and the people who run the school are terrific,
kind, and very helpful. I feel like I've gotten my money's worth.
Not sure what "bizarre" communication means but I have always found the secretary/daughter to be
friendly and helpful.










roddy -

Quick note from me here. Keats have been in touch regarding ZFS-China's post, and I suspect the
above three posters are current / recent students there who have been asked by Keats to post. That
is perfectly acceptable, and there's no indication that the posts are faked.

ZFS, do you want to back up what you said, or get whoever you got the information from to post and
clarify?










ZFS-China -

Sorry for the late reply, I'm on a trip through China for the New Year.

To elaborate, "bizarre" in the sense that it started off very professional and friendly, and then
for some reason she got the idea I couldn't afford classes at their school and became quite
offensive (despite the fact I was paying 50% more in Dalian). She said she "saw my post on Chinese
Forums", and that based on that she thought I was looking for the cheapest way to learn Chinese. I
had no idea what she was talking about, so I asked her to send me a copy of the post but she never
did. In the end, she gave a really bad impression of herself and the school.

I don't think this is an appropriate place to post the correspondence, but if you would like to
see it, send me a private message and I will send you a copy.

Also, roddy, I don't know if the other board member wants his name to be known, but if you want to
check my private messages, then you can confirm what the individual told me.










vancouver -

I wasn't asked to reply by the school - I overheard a discussion about this issue and I decided of
my own volition to add my opinion.










tcmzueck -

Hello,

After reading the other posts here I'd like to clarify that I was asked by the Keats School to
post here, but I do so glady. I studied at Keats from mid-September to mid-December, 2007. The
school is excellent. The price is unbelievable low. Because it is one-on-one, it's a good option
for both travellers who need to pick up a few phrases and serious students who want to learn as
quickly as possible. I was in the latter group, and I would have been happy with most of the
teachers there. As is, if you are unhappy with your teacher, which few students were while I was
there, they will find you a new one.

I felt like I learned an incredible amount while there. After three months of study I came back
home and visited a Chinese class at the University of California, and absolutely blew away 2nd
year Chinese students. Four hours a day will do that for you.

Apart from the education, the owners are extremely nice and helpful. They will do almost anything
reasonable to make your stay more comfortable. I became pretty ill once or twice during my stay,
and the owner bought medicine and helped take care of me at no expense to me. They helped me find
a bike to rent, and even repaired an old laptop so that I could write college essays in the
privacy of my dorm room.

I truly couldn't have been happier with my experience and am returning next month for another 3
month stay.

If you have any questions feel free to email me, zueck_a@hotmail.com

Thanks,
Anthony Zueck
安肃












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