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daxia -

Cool, thanks for all the info about the "swastika" symbol. I knew that It had other meanings
before Hitler started to use it, but I didn't know that it was so popular.

Although, I wonder what would happen if a group of Jew's came here visiting and saw a guy with a
swastika tattoo....



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horas -

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Origins of the swastika

The EU has been urged to ban the swastika because of its Nazi associations with hate and racism.
But the symbol was around long before Adolf Hitler.


The swastika is a cross with its arms bent at right angles to either the right or left. In
geometric terms, it is known as an irregular icosagon or 20-sided polygon.

The word is derived from the Sanskrit "svastika" and means "good to be". In Indo-European culture
it was a mark made on people or objects to give them good luck.

It has been around for thousands of years, particularly as a Hindu symbol in the holy texts, to
mean luck, Brahma or samsara (rebirth). It can be clockwise or anti-clockwise and the way it
points in all four directions suggests stability. Sometimes it features a dot between each arm.

Nowadays it is commonly seen in Indian artwork and current and ancient Hindu architecture, and in
the ruins of the ancient city of Troy. It has also been used in Buddhism and Jainism, plus other
Asian, European and Native American cultures.

The British author Rudyard Kipling, who was strongly influenced by Indian culture, had a swastika
on the dust jackets of all his books until the rise of Nazism made this inappropriate. It was also
a symbol used by the scouts in Britain, although it was taken off Robert Baden-Powell's 1922 Medal
of Merit after complaints in the 1930s.

The Finnish Air Force also used it as its official symbol in World War II, and it still appears on
medals, but it had no connection with the Nazi use.

It is rarely seen on its own in Western architecture, but a design of interlocking swastikas is
part of the design of the floor of the cathedral of Amiens, France.

Nazi's hooked cross

Swastika is also a small mining town in northern Ontario, Canada, about 580 kilometres north of
Toronto. Attempts by the government of Ontario to change the town's name during World War II were
rejected by residents.

But it is its association with the National Socialist German Workers Party in the 1930s which is
etched on the minds of Western society. Before Hitler, it was used in about 1870 by the Austrian
Pan-German followers of Schoenerer, an Austrian anti-Semitic politician.

Its Nazi use was linked to the belief in the Aryan cultural descent of the German people. They
considered the early Aryans of India to be the prototypical white invaders and hijacked the sign
as a symbol of the Aryan master race.

The Nazi party formally adopted the swastika - what they called the Hakenkreuz, the hooked cross -
in 1920. This was used on the party's flag (above), badge, and armband.

In Mein Kampf, Adolf Hitler wrote: "I myself, meanwhile, after innumerable attempts, had laid down
a final form; a flag with a red background, a white disk, and a black swastika in the middle.
After long trials I also found a definite proportion between the size of the flag and the size of
the white disk, as well as the shape and thickness of the swastika."

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/h...ne/4183467.stm

Published: 2005/01/18 10:44:42 GMT

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roddy -

Couple of queries.

1) Has anyone ever seen a Chinese person with a Chinese character tattoo? Or for that matter with
the English 'Fear is the mind-killer' stamped permanently just above their arse?

2) Should I have a specific 'tattoo / calligraphy / Chinese name translation' forum - we get a
fair number of them, and while they sometimes lead to interesting discussion, they aren't really
learning Chinese questions.










dalaowai -

I'd been toying with the idea of getting a tattoo to add to my collection and my Chinese friends
suggested that I get it done in Traditional Chinese. They said it would give it a nice look to it.

I decided against getting it done after seeing how many NBA players have Chinese tattoos and my
girlfriend's insistence that if I get a Chinese tattoo, it should be her name. Talk about
commitment!

That being said, I have a few tattoos in different languages and I've seen great tattoos in
Chinese. Good luck!










roddy -



Quote:

Like if a foreigner saw a Hitler mark, he would believe the guy is a Nazi and beat the shit out of
him, and if the police would see it, they would think that he is a F a l u n G o n g practitioner
and put him in jail. Can anyone explain why they have this tattoo ?

They have a higher opinion of people than you do, and thus believe that a) many are aware of the
symbol's actual significane (actually, it's entirely possible to meet people who have never heard
of the Nazis) and that b) even if they're not, they'll ask first and swing fists later.










daxia -



Quote:

They have a higher opinion of people than you do, and thus believe that a) many are aware of the
symbol's actual significane (actually, it's entirely possible to meet people who have never heard
of the Nazis) and that b) even if they're not, they'll ask first and swing fists later.

Not where I am from. In sweden, if you wear a nazi mark and go out for a walk in the city where
allot of other people will see you, then you probably wont come back alive (if your not walking
together with 10 other people who can defend you).










mr.stinky -

swastika was also used by the navaho tribes in new mexico. currently there are
symbols in the architecture of the kimo theatre in albuquerquerque.










transman -

It would.










chenpv -

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PS: 卐 and 卍 are both Chinese characters, which read 'wan4'.










dearbox -

In fact, not many Chinese people will use the word "忍" and it's more popular in Japan.












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