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studentyoung -



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If there are such festivals in Mainland, why aren't they listed as public holidays like Taiwan,
Hong Kong, Macau and Korea do?

Saint Valentine's Day and Women’s Day aren’t listed as public holidays in Taiwan, Hong Kong,
Macau, Korea and even America but can you say that there are no Saint Valentine’s Day and
Women’s in Taiwan, Hong Kong, Macau, Korea and America? No matter Qing Ming, Dragon Boat,
Mid-Autumn and Chong Yang Festivals are public holidays or not, they are in our hearts and we
still observe them and take them as part of our traditional culture, just as Saint Valentine’s
Day and Women’s Day are in people’s heart, no matter they are public holidays or not!

But Ian_Lee, you don't observe these traditional festivals just because they are listed as public
holidays, right? I wonder if you observe these traditional festivals in Hawaii? You see, they are
not listed as public holidays in Hawaii. I hope you do, but ...who knows?



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And young student, even with Opium War, Christmas is being observed by many people in China now!

Yes! And at least, we won’t ask, “Why does Christmas become the festival of weirdo”.

Thanks!



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Ian_Lee -



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I wonder if you observe these traditional festivals in Hawaii? You see, they are not listed as
public holidays in Hawaii.

You are right. I don't observe these festivals in Hawaii because they are not listed as public
holidays in Hawaii. My kids don't even know what mid-Autumn Festival is before I took them to Hong
Kong to spend the Mid-Autumn Festival there.



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And at least, we won’t ask, “Why does Christmas become the festival of weirdo”.

Do you mean most people in China only have the IQ of my 12-yr old daughter who can't tell the
difference between X'mas and the festival of weirdo?










studentyoung -



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My kids don't even know what mid-Autumn Festival is before I took them to Hong Kong to spend the
Mid-Autumn Festival there.

Oh, really? And your kids won’t even know that Mid-Autumn Festival originates in mainland China,
if you don’t take them to China mainland. Of course, I see that you will keep hiding truth and
history from your kids. So, go on!



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Do you mean most people in China only have the IQ of my 12-yr old daughter who can't tell the
difference between X'mas and the festival of weirdo?

Take it easy, Ian_Lee! I think it has nothing to do with the IQ of most people in China, but it is
very clear that your daughter’s question is the very result of your cultural -revolution-like
educational style.

Thanks!










Ian_Lee -



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And your kids won’t even know that Mid-Autumn Festival originates in mainland China, if you
don’t take them to China mainland.

In the days that even Mainland tourists flock to buy Moon Cakes in HK and are afraid to eat those
made in their homeland, taking my kids to learn about Mid-Autumn Festival in Hong Kong is a safer
bet.



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your daughter’s question is the very result of your cultural -revolution-like educational style.

圣 is a by-product of Cultural Revolution. Without Cultural Revolution, my daughter would not get
confused with X'mas and the Festival of Weirdo!










imron -



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圣 is a by-product of Cultural Revolution.

Actually, more correctly you should say that it's the product of the CCP. The characters were
simplified before the start of the cultural revolution, so cultural revolution or not, it would
still be the festival of weirdos. Although there were further simplifications made after the
cultural revolution, these further simplifications were later retracted due to being unpopular.










studentyoung -



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In the days that even Mainland tourists flock to buy Moon Cakes in HK and are afraid to eat those
made in their homeland, taking my kids to learn about Mid-Autumn Festival in Hong Kong is a safer
bet.

But you won’t deny that moon cakes, like Mid-autumn Festival, originates in mainland China, too,
right? Without the traditional culture in mainland China, how come Hong Kong has mid-autumn
festival and moon cakes?



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圣 is a by-product of Cultural Revolution. Without Cultural Revolution, my daughter would not get
confused with X'mas and the Festival of Weirdo!

Your imagination is fascinating, Ian-Lee! And you even try to use “Cultural Revolution” as an
excuse to cover your cultural revolution to your kids. It is a shame!

Thanks!










Ian_Lee -



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moon cakes, like Mid-autumn Festival, originates in mainland China, too, right? Without the
traditional culture in mainland China

Straighten your logic. Something that originates there does not necessarily flourish there. A lot
of things originate in China (which has nothing to do with PRC since they were there hundreds or
even thousands years earlier), so what?

The classical case is that Kyoto, which modeled exactly on the Tang City of ChangAn (now Xian),
preserves more of the Tang tradition than Xian does.

And please save whatever your argument about the traditional culture in Mainland. Whatever left of
the tradition in Mainland has been done away during the Cultural Revolution.



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you even try to use “Cultural Revolution” as an excuse to cover your cultural revolution to
your kids.

It is your injection first of "Cultural Revolution" and "Opium War" in this purely academic
discussion (I don't blame you since that is the common drawback of most people from Mainland). So?
Well, unlike you guys in Mainland, I am not that lunatic to teach my kids that "Father and Mother
are not as close to me as Chairman Mao" or put a "ox-ghost-reptile-God" labeled dunce cap on your
father or teacher before you curse them! Who should be more shameful? Anyway, the one who knew
"Shame" had already swum thru the shark-infested water to Hong Kong!










studentyoung -



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Straighten your logic. Something that originates there does not necessarily flourish there. A lot
of things originate in China (which has nothing to do with PRC since they were there hundreds or
even thousands years earlier), so what?

So what? So you can’t deny history! Do you mean you deny history very often? I think
饮水思源 (not to forget one's origins) is our tradition, right?



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So? Well, unlike you guys in Mainland, I am not that lunatic to teach my kids that "Father and
Mother are not as close to me as Chairman Mao" or put a "ox-ghost-reptile-God" labeled dunce cap
on your father or teacher before you curse them! Who should be more shameful?

Hehe. Who is more shameful? Those who couldn’t stand the cultural revolution and tried to swim
to Hong Kong are not shameful. But the one who tries to mock their hard situation should consider
where he is shameful or not.

The last words I want to say to you on this thread: Please study more, before you post again,
Ian_Lee. I can understand why you don’t like the Cultural Revolution, but it doesn’t mean that
you have the right to make rumors. You love Hong Kong and HKers, but it is not an excuse for you
to slander mainland Chinese people and their culture!

Thanks!
___________________________________________
P.S. It is my last post on the thread!










HashiriKata -



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It is my last post on the thread!

That's good! Ian_Lee also, let's get on with "Characters we can't get right". Are there other
confusing characters, anyone? .










wushijiao -



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another one is 吏 lì which I always seem to read as shǐ.

I'm reading a book in which I always meantally read 胥吏 (xu1li4, petty official) as "dan4shi3".














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